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January 09, 2009

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Aviva Luria

I'm wondering if there is a middle ground for mothers. I was the child who was dragged around to museums based largely on my parents' interests. That also meant that we stayed far longer than was enjoyable for me and that visits to museums could turn into drudgery. Now with a child of my own, I focus on his needs, so although I take him to a variety of museums, we look mostly at what he wants to look at and limit our time according to his ability to stay engaged and happy. I believe most museums can be interesting to even the youngest of children, but there's no doubt that a successful visit means paying attention to the basic needs and level of engagement of the younger set.

Can museums help shed light on a "third way" for moms and their children?

Susie Wilkening

Hi Aviva -

There is undoubtedly a spectrum in attitudes and behaviors of parents/moms. That is, the issue is not totally black and white. Generally, we find that most parents do make choices, and limit time, based on the needs of their children. Although there are certainly extremes in the behaviors of parents too, the vast majority of moms fall in the middle and are very focused on the quality of the experience for their children.

The difference is the level of engagement of the parent as well. Those parents who are engaged as well have very different experiences, and perspectives, on the museum. So how do we ensure that parents become increasingly more engaged without detracting from, but actually enhancing, the experience of children?

So you are absolutely right - a successful visit still means paying attention to the basic needs and engagement of the younger set. But what else can we do to engage the parents as well? That is the nut we need to crack!


- Susie

Jennifer Caleshu, Bay Area Discovery Museum

This is a VERY interesting line of discussion - and one we have a lot of stake in, as a children's museum. Our research shows similar results - possibly slightly more engagement with about 45% strongly agreeing (9 or 10 on a scale of 1-10) with the reason for visiting "because I enjoy it" whereas 92% strongly agree they visit because it is "fun for child." And about 50% strongly agree they visit "to spend time together as a family."

Part of what helps us is our truly stunning setting under the Golden Gate Bridge - it's a pretty great place to play with your kids. I'm also hoping a new series of family classes for toddlers/preschoolers and their caregivers increases engagement - though I have a feeling that those who sign up are likely to be on the more-engaged end of the spectrum anyway.

And overall, this is a nut we have to crack if we're going to create lifelong affiliations with our members - beyond when their children age-out (age 8 or so) - and thereby increase our donor pool as well...

Kathy Haas

I am a mom with two preschool kids and I am also a museum professional, so this really spoke to me. I take my kids to children's museums and also to other types of museums (art, natural history, living history) and I often find it difficult to engage with the museum myself while meeting their needs. I think its satisfying and enjoyable to spend time explaining dinosaurs or counting the number of shells on a Newport chest, but if I really want to see an exhibit, I try to find a way to leave the kids at home, since if we go as a family I find my time severely curtailed and my attention distracted. I also have to admit that children's museums often bore me up the wall--I try to bring a book to read. Finding some way to provide an interesting adult experience while the kids play would be great.

Linda Peterat

I read with interest the recent article about moms in ASTC Dimensions. You propose that moms are seeking narrative experiences, encourage closer cooperation with narrative-based museums, and talk of the importance of narrative hooks. But what exactly, specifically, concretely do you mean by these? What is an example of a narrative experience? A narrative hook? My own research in a science centre found much what Kathy speaks of in the previous message. Moms go for the kids and find it difficult to meet their needs at the same time as the children... they are busy keeping them engaged, focused, supervised and find they cannot read much or engage much themselves while responsible for several others....

Susie Wilkening

Thanks for all of these comments!

Moms tend to perceive certain types of museums as being active and hands-on, while others are pereceived by moms as being more story-based. Children's museums and science centers are perceived as being hands-on, while history museums, historic sites, and natural history museums are perceived as being more narrative based, with stories wrapping around the content. These are, of course, generalizations, as museums can be quite good at more than one. But generally, these perceptions are what moms believe.

We would love to dig much deeper into the challenge of moms, and one thing we will certainly be examining in more detail is how Museum Advocate moms do balance those needs of their children with their own engagement (and how they use their own engagement to increase that of their children). It is a great question.

Susie

Steve Boyd-Smith

Thank you for some valuable research and interesting conclusions. It has generated some useful discussion within the Zoo for which I work. Here are a few of the points I sent around there:

Narrative does not require linearity. People build narratives in their heads, whether we give them a defined beginning, climax, and end or not. What they need, in order to build that, are the elements of a story: characters, changes over time, and a consistent message and themes.

Other suggestions I'd have for increasing engagement in adults:
Have information at places that safely engage kids. I've noticed this at the Children's Museum. Tired parent comes to museum to get out of the house. While kid is (finally) safe and engaged, parent can take a little mental break from kid. I've seen parents read very long labels because that's what's nearby.

Speak directly to adults at some spots. Perhaps have a unique logo or graphic element that identifies short bits that give higher-level (or narrative) info that helps adults feel smart.

The narrative doesn't have to start and end at the museum (or Zoo) doors. Use the magazine, e-news, and website to build and develop a narrative that engages consistently.

Make the visit comfortable and easy. As other people in the survey said: “place benches generously," “better coffee,” and “free parking!” As a parent of young kids, I'll also second the coffee thing. I quit visiting the local Children's Museum because they didn't have coffee (or a place to warm baby bottles). The Zoo did so I'd go there instead. Furthermore, I wasn't forbidden from taking it into the galleries. I could carry my coffee with me.

J. Tevere MacFadyen

Thanks to Steve Boyd-Smith for pointing me toward this interesting and valuable exchange of ideas.

One other thought about what we mean by "narrative":

In our interpretive planning and design practice we're increasingly interested in exploring ways to move beyond narrative and into dialogue. Put another way, this is a shift from "story hearing" or "story telling" to "story sharing." If we create opportunities and incentives for guests participate in the story-making process and to share their stories with one another we transform visitors from being passive consumers of our narratives into active creators of their own narratives and participants in a conversation.

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